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Three thoughts on Floyd Mayweather’s win over Saul Alvarez

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Floyd Mayweather had little trouble with Saul Alvarez over 12 rounds Saturday. (Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

Floyd Mayweather had little trouble with Saul Alvarez over 12 rounds Saturday. (Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

LAS VEGAS — Three thoughts on Floyd Mayweather’s majority decision win over Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez:

This was a blowout: Judge C.J. Ross—the same C.J. Ross who scored Manny Pacquiao-Tim Bradley for Bradley last year—inexplicably scored the fight a draw, 114-114. This wasn’t even close. For 12 rounds, Mayweather put on a boxing clinic. He ricocheted his jab off of Alvarez’s head repeatedly, snapping it back as Canelo made no effort to move out of the way. Though Canelo was the aggressor, it was Mayweather landing the cleaner, harder shots all night. According to SHOSTATS, Mayweather landed 232 of his 505 punches (compared to 117 of 526 for Canelo) and connected on 139 of his 330 jabs (44 of 294 for Canelo). Mayweather never appeared to be in trouble and never appeared tired, and Canelo fought with his hands down in the later rounds and was rooted to the mat when Mayweather pushed him to the corner. Credit Canelo for taking so many clean shots, but that’s about the only thing for which you can credit him.

“I couldn’t connect [with] him,” Alvarez said. “He is very elusive and intelligent. He has a lot of experience and I honestly couldn’t find him. The late rounds, I felt frustrated. I recognize that he beat me. He is a great fighter.”

This was also predictable: This isn’t Monday morning quarterbacking; I’ve been writing for weeks that Canelo was out of his depth. As much potential as Canelo shows, he is still 23 with one quality win (over Austin Trout) on his resume. He doesn’t have the experience to adjust when Mayweather takes him out of his game and clearly doesn’t have the speed to keep up with him. The more frustrated Canelo got, the more he fell apart, hitting Mayweather with low blows and showing a noticeable lack of poise in the ring.

That shouldn’t diminish Mayweather’s victory, of course. This was the fight for which everyone clamored, a fight that set a record for a live gate ($20 million) and has a chance to break the all-time record for pay-per-view revenue and buys. Mayweather moved up in weight and accepted a legitimate challenge. But though Canelo may still develop into the star that Golden Boy Promotions hope he is, he is a long way from it.

There is no one that can beat Floyd Mayweather: With Manny Pacquiao diminished—and face it, we were never getting that fight anyway—Mayweather stands alone. Yes, some corners will scream for Mayweather to fight Gennady Golovkin or Sergio Martinez, but those fights aren’t happening and, frankly, there is no need for them. Because how big do you want Mayweather’s opponents to be? He’s likely headed back to the 147-pound division, where no one can touch him. Danny Garcia—who pulled yet another upset with a decision win over Lucas Matthysse—doesn’t have the speed to hang with him. Amir Khan has looked terrible as a welterweight. Adrien Broner is too raw, too hittable, and he and Mayweather are friends anyway.

As Mayweather cruises into (presumably) the final four fights of his professional career, there is no one that looms as a serious threat to him.

Said Mayweather: “I’m still going strong.”

– Chris Mannix

  • Published On Sep 15, 2013
  • 60 comments
    Sugar Ray
    Sugar Ray

    Maynever is heavily over rated. 

    Sugar Ray
    Sugar Ray

    I agreed with this writer until I came upon "with Manny Pacquiao diminished". I'm a boxing fan through and through and have seen greats like Sugar Ray, JCC, Ali, Roberto Durant fight. I've been blessed to watch Manny Pacquiao as well in Texas. I know a warrior when I see one. Trust me Manny is not dimished.

    HateMeMore
    HateMeMore

      I just sit back and watch the "haters" in America keep on hating while I make money off of Mayweather. You know why he is hated? Not because he talks trash, nor is it because people want to see him lose. It's a fact that America is a racist country and hate to see any one of "color" make money at crazy rates and then turns around and spends it in your face. He is someone that won't be controlled!

       When I ask anyone why they hate him and I only get one answer... "his attitude!" Then I turn around and ask them why they like Ali, and guess what!? They absolutely adore him. Then I tell them that they are hypocrites because Ali did the exact same thing and dodged the draft. Thats called hate in it's purest form! That's why other countries hate us to a certain extent, but hey hate sells. At the end of the day you all need an excuse to justify your hate, and no matter if Floyd is playing you like idiots that some of you are. He is eating at the fabric that America tries to hide behind. "Think its not illegal yet."

    6marK6
    6marK6

    I don't like Floyd. I think he is a piece of dirt as a human and his boxing style is not entertaining in the least. I prefer brawlers and guys that stand toe to toe. But the reality is that there is nobody that can beat him, period. So, like him or not, you have to respect what he has done in the ring. 

    DannyG83
    DannyG83

    If JCC (Julio Ceasar Chavez) retired at 87-0 would he have been consider the best ever ?? 


    Ruel
    Ruel

    MANNY PACQUIAON DIMINISHED? COME ON HE IS THE ONLY GUY FLOYED KEEPS ON DUCKING!!!!

    danrram2
    danrram2

    Mayweather Jr. said “I want to commend this young, strong lion because he will carry the torch…Canelo has everything it takes to be a legend in the sport..."

    texastbone428
    texastbone428

    A smart person should spend money on a nice dinner and a good bottle of fine wine before pissing it off on a match like this.  suckers born every day!!!!!!!

    YaValioCacaWate
    YaValioCacaWate

    Canela can keep his head up., he just got beaten by the best boxer in the world.  Floyd Mayweather has proven many times over, that he is the greatest boxer ever.  #1 baby.

    K-Jun
    K-Jun

    Oh, Sorry, I thought you were talking about Alabama football program. 

    bgtobe
    bgtobe

    Regardless of what people say Pacquaio never had a chance of beating Mayweather. He was a hyped up product of Top Rank. He fought low quality opponents (Clottey) or an opponent fresh off their first defeat (Hatton). He struggled with JMM and was eventually KO'd. Pacquaio would get demolished by Alvarez. Paquaio never has been and never will be on Mayweather's level. But as always ppl when never learn. If they ever fight and after Mayweather makes him look like the amateur he is then ppl will complain that Pacquaio was washed up. Smh.

    Pat11
    Pat11

    If all boxers faught like Money boxing would have never been shown on TV. Boring style focused on preserving his record. He has great skills especially his footwork and jab and uncanniness of knowing exactly where he is in the ring. He lacks any true competition, a problem in all weight divisions, thanks the guys running the sport .   Many Athletes are turned off due to lack of ethics in the sport, so I think talent pool will continue to shrink unless all divisions are reduced and unified and run by 1 governing body run by a democracy of promoters. Getting rid of reduntant divisions and boxing organizations would increase talent in each division tramendusly.

    acognation
    acognation

    GGG is K2 and Sergio is Top Rank there will be no way HBO loses those fighters and potential money for Floyd and Showtime. Its boxing politics

    pmccnn
    pmccnn

    No fighter is unbeatable even the greatest have been defeated. Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Ali, etc... have been beaten. But at this point, it does not appear that there is anybody remaining to really threaten Mayweather. A couple of years ago, I believed Manny could pose problems for Floyd but no longer unless Manny comes back and fights better than he did in last two fights (even though he clearly defeated Bradley; a historically bad decision). So, who does Floyd fight? I haven't a clue. 

    Dean16
    Dean16

    I long ago stopped bothering to watch a Mayweather fight. Waste of money.

    RaferJohnson
    RaferJohnson

    For as much as I do not like Floyd Mayweather, there is no one left to challenge him.  He is the best.  Period.  Have to give up hating on him and give the devil his due.  He is unbeatable.

    MichaelC
    MichaelC

    This fight was a product of pure marketing and hype. From a promotional standpoint, it was perfect.

    I think there's still a chance for a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight. Manny will get a couple cream-puffs to get back on the radar (like any over-the-hill fighter - the "whole new and improved and still great" angle promoters love to use). How could such a fight not be set up in an industry dictated by greed and over-exposure? Each fighter could rake in $50M guaranteed. I don't see - with what's out there in terms of potential "super fight, super money" match-ups - how this fight will continue to be ignored.

    dvdrvr7
    dvdrvr7

    CJ must stand for Can't Judge....

    dvdrvr7
    dvdrvr7

    I hope the next time CJ judges a fight she brings her seeing eye dog with her..

    kripter
    kripter

    CJ Roth must have been drunk last night. I drank some beer while watching the fight but I clearly saw Mayweather's win. Well, all is good today and Sunday is a good day for getting some of the good things we have been thinking of during the week.

    salvaje50
    salvaje50

    He walked out with Justin Bieber.  That's reason enough for me to hate him

    buzzman69
    buzzman69

    The question is why someone like CJ Ross, after her horrendous scoring in that Pacquiao-Bradley fight was selected for a huge fight like this. The other judge scoring it close was bad enough. I had it 11-1 and felt I was being generous to give the poor kid one round. Every time I start to get interested in boxing again, something like this happens that turns me off and put the integrity  of the sport in question again. It was such a masterful performance by Mayweather and to have it diminished by crazy scoring is just sad. He's the first fighter in a long while that I think would match up to the Golden Age boxers like Leornard, Hearns, Hagler.

    ChrisBowen
    ChrisBowen

    Mayweather will retire undefeated.

    Advocatus_Diaboli
    Advocatus_Diaboli

    I don't agree that Sergio Martinez is too big for Mayweather. Martinez is a natural Jr. Middleweight (154) who typically comes in lighter than the Middleweight limit and could probably make a catch-weight of 152 easily. In addition it was reported that Martinez was willing to meet Mayweather at the 147 limit. Also given Sergio's unorthodox, awkward southpaw style, it could make for interesting encounter. It would also further cement Floyd's legacy with another title (assuming a win) in yet another weight class.

    Jessies
    Jessies

    Schit fights like this is why no one watches boxing anymore. It's MMA all the way.

    Vinny Cordoba
    Vinny Cordoba

    Another boxing hustle job. They trump up this fight as if Alvarez had a chance against Floyd just to pump up the gate, when anyone with an ounce of boxing knowledge knew Mayweather would whip this guy easily. But people keep falling for it.

    old1957guy
    old1957guy

    What really is too bad here is why the state of Nevada keeps using this C.J. Ross as a judge. She now, in two different fights, has shown that she has no idea what she is doing. There was a lot of of criticism of her in the Pacquiao-Bradley  fight. And yet the state continues to let her be a judge.

    I think someone in the Nevada boxing commission needs to investigate this situation.

    FightingTard
    FightingTard

    Floyd is 14 years older than Alvarez but they have had the same amount of fights?

    Just goes to show that Floyd only waits for people to be hand picked for his style before he fights them, when was the last time Floyd legally knocked someone out?

    docFORfatCHICKS
    docFORfatCHICKS

    not really a fan of mayweather.  in fact, most who were watching the fight at the bar i was at wanted mayweather to lose.  I don't think any of them actually believed it would happen, but that's what they wanted.  the fact that he is an amazing fighter and one of the greats cannot really be disputed.  but he's also one of the more disliked athletes of our time.

    xnom
    xnom

    After JMM KOed pacqy, many fans deserted him as washed and hyped up guy. 

    LomaxHunter
    LomaxHunter

    @acognation Sergio is promoted by Lou Dibella, not Top Rank, but yes his affiliation with HBO will probably prevent a fight with Mayweather.

    cubeadoob
    cubeadoob

    Was Rocky Marciano ever beaten?

    pmccnn
    pmccnn

    @MichaelC Brandon Rios is no cream puff. Tough guy who loves to bang. He'll give Manny a real tough fight. 

    DannyG83
    DannyG83

    @salvaje50 

    Mike Tyson PPV > Money May PPV

    Tyson walked out w/ 2pac > Money May walked w/Bieber

    Mike Tyson ear bite > Money May sucker punch 

    opinionhated
    opinionhated

    Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to Straight Cash Homie!

    LomaxHunter
    LomaxHunter

    @Jessies Hello Jessies, what was the last MMA PPV that had more than 1.5 million buys? The answer is never.  Boxing has had six - Floyd Mayweather has been in two of them, not counting Saturday which will likely exceed that mark.

    Plenty of people watch boxing - in fact, it has been historically the highest rated programming on HBO.  FS1, ESPN, HBO, and Showtime all have consistent boxing programming.  The live gate for this fight set a record.  Boxing cards still fill arenas around the country and the world.

    Just because you don't like boxing doesn't mean no watches boxing.  Maybe you should just focus on MMA and not aggravate yourself watching "Schit fights like this."  Boxing won't miss you.

    ChrisBowen
    ChrisBowen

    @Vinny Cordoba yeah, I don't really follow boxing, but a buddy of mine invited me to watch the fight.  Alvarez didn't even look like he was a professional next to Mayweather.

    LomaxHunter
    LomaxHunter

    @FightingTard Hello FightingTard, obviously you do not know much about professional boxing, so let me educate you.

    1) Canelo Alvarez turned pro when he was 15 years old, which is legal in Mexico. Floyd turned pro at 19.  Prior to that he was a world class amateur.   Alvarez had 28 pro fights before his 19th birthday, so when you compare their records, it is, as they say, apples and oranges.

    2) As fighters age and increase in stature, their activity level drops since it large paydays aren't available several times a year and the chance of injury increases.  For example, Canelo fought on average seven times a year before he turned 19;  his fight rate has diminished to an average of four times a year since.  This year, like Floyd, he is only fighting twice.

    3) Floyd's last KO came against Victor Ortiz, which was three fights ago.  I'm guessing you don't think that was "legal" even though it was, so his last KO prior to that was versus Ricky Hatton which was six fights ago.  The point of boxing is to win, not just knock people out.  If KO's are what you want you want, I suggest you look up your local Fight Club.  Maybe YOU can be the next Tyler Durden!!

    bobdevo
    bobdevo

    @FightingTard 'Tard is right.  

    Sheesh - he gives away 15 pounds and slaps the 23 year old all over the ring and you whine.  And the last time I looked, you don't have to KO to win.

    EasyGoer
    EasyGoer

    @FightingTard Doesn't matter. Who has beaten him? Canelo had one quality win before fighting Floyd. You can beat up on bums all day and pad your record to make it seem like you're invincible but when you step in the ring with a quality opponent all your flaws get exposed. That's what happened in that fight.

    leehwgoc
    leehwgoc

    @docFORfatCHICKS It's really quite amazing that a champion athlete who has never professionally lost is nonetheless so universally disliked.  

    Normally, winning solves just about everything when it comes to public esteem.  But Mayweather is that rare exception to the rule.  

    Davos1
    Davos1

    Boxing and MMA are both niche sports. UFC gets better ratings on TV. Boxing has Mayweather, Manny and a few monster ppvs. UFC has a young desirable demographic. Boxing has Hispanics.

    LomaxHunter
    LomaxHunter

    @ChrisBowen @Vinny Cordoba Hello ChrisBowen, Mayweather makes good fighters look bad.  It is his style.  Alvarez may not lose another fight in his career, but against the best he came up short.

    danrram2
    danrram2

    @bobdevo @FightingTard   Mayweather didn't slap anyone around he won off points & never threatened Alvarez . It was obvious that he was afraid of Canelo's power so instead of fighting it was more like a game of tag. Not to mention more then half his shots landed on gloves that the judges counted as points. No you don't need Ko's to win but in boxing thats what fighters take the most pride in.                                                                                 The funny thing is Alvarez allowed Mayweather to hit him against the ropes with out response  & it did nothing to him. Mayweather said before & after the fight he was going for the KO 

    danrram2
    danrram2

    @EasyGoer @FightingTard  to say Alvarezonly had 1 quality fight shows your stupidity. You read some BS Si article & take it as a fact, what a joke.  .... Quality opponent? Floyd didn't even try to fight all he did was get his score up & run run run.Alvarez took Jr's shots like nothing & Jr. said he was going for a KO ...NO POWER....thats why he ran ran ran cuz he knows Canelo could have KOd him. He not afraid to get in the ring but he is afraid of  professional fighters like Alvarez.

    BosephHeyden
    BosephHeyden

    @leehwgoc If you want to know why he's disliked as much as he is, simply rewatch any interview he did back when Manny Pacquaio was an actual contender.  Every single one of his excuses involved "providing for his family", despite being one of the highest paid ATHLETES (not just boxing) of all time, or "doing what's in his best interest", despite his legacy as being one of the best (not THE best, he won't ever be that) boxers of all time being cemented.

    He made a few poor choices in his fight selections.  He did it for selfish reasons.  In no way would the fight against Pacquaio have affected him negatively, heck, the goodwill he would have earned win or lose would have probably made him even more money and maybe have saved boxing.  That's why everyone dislikes him.
     

    docFORfatCHICKS
    docFORfatCHICKS

    @leehwgoc @docFORfatCHICKS i said i'm not a fan, but i don't dislike him either... though i did lose a bit of respect for him watching him walk out with LITTLE wayne and bieber.  mostly, i just wanted to see the streak end.

    Mkmck
    Mkmck

    @BosephHeyden @leehwgoc Let's not forget assaulting his girlfriend as another reason people don't like him. Any man who hits a woman is a punk...period.

    b.jammin81
    b.jammin81

    @docFORfatCHICKS @leehwgoc - I will be honest and say I do hate Mayweather. After the Hatton fight when they were trying to line up the Manny fight he started stammering and making every excuse under the sun. Manny was the best contender at the time. Full stop.